Ross's Maryland Bakery
Rudy-
Yea I here Ya about the crust. In The old NY delli's rolls and bread were pretty much in the open air...crust stayed crisper.
For a harder crust try preheating oven to 450f, add rolls, spray with spray bottle, and turn down oven to 375f until done.
And yes I like a high gluten flour. I use http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/imperi ... gEQM6y296w
I never thought the taste of flour could make a difference until I got that for making Pizza Dough.
I am now making some NY Jewish Deli Rye to go along with the liverwurst that I made on Sunday with your recipe that you posted.
Ross-
Your the Boss
I only know how to make, Hard rolls , Rye bread, and Pizza crust.
And...I came to this site for sausage making...not bread.
So much to learn.
Yea I here Ya about the crust. In The old NY delli's rolls and bread were pretty much in the open air...crust stayed crisper.
For a harder crust try preheating oven to 450f, add rolls, spray with spray bottle, and turn down oven to 375f until done.
And yes I like a high gluten flour. I use http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/imperi ... gEQM6y296w
I never thought the taste of flour could make a difference until I got that for making Pizza Dough.
I am now making some NY Jewish Deli Rye to go along with the liverwurst that I made on Sunday with your recipe that you posted.
Ross-
Your the Boss
I only know how to make, Hard rolls , Rye bread, and Pizza crust.
And...I came to this site for sausage making...not bread.
So much to learn.
Last edited by Bob K on Wed Aug 07, 2013 06:42, edited 1 time in total.
Darn!!! Bob, You can't keep Us hanging!!! We all love to experiment. I remember a bakery here in Buffalo named Kaufmans. My dad sent me a 8 lb NY Rye when I was in country in Nam. Took 6 weeks to get there. NOTHING spoiled. No mold, crust was a little hard but every bit edible. BEST rye bread I ever had, lol. Hell it still had the bakers "Union label" on it. My dad was a route man for Wonder Bread, 40 years. Would appreciate any info on the making of the NY rye. SUPERB! Fred
Keep them safe until they all come home.
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Hey, hey Bob K!Ross-
Your the Boss
I only know how to make, Hard rolls , Rye bread, and Pizza crust.
And...I came to this site for sausage making...not bread.
So much to learn.
That Old School NY Jewish Deli Rye....with seeds looks very nice indeed. Very professional. There are a few sausages that just demand some good cheese and a good bread or bun. That's the reason we opened Ross' Maryland Bakery. That crafty ol' "Rongway" Hill can make exquisite bread in his sleep! He does it scientifically, carefully measuring and weighing all the ingredients while thoroughly describing his process techniques. Ross' heart is as large as the state he lives in. He's just like Stan Marianski - they both share their secrets and even their recipes.
Hmmmm.... are you getting the drift? Come on Bob, SHARE your recipe for that wonderful bread... so Rudy, Fred, and I don't have to come to Connecticut and find you!
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Ok I will post the recipe ....but while the recipe is simple some of the ingredients are hard to find locally or need to be made ahead of time.
Let me first put something together with pictures and online source links.
You will need
First Clear Flour
White Rye Flour (Cream of Rye)
An active sourdough starter for making Rye Sour
Let me first put something together with pictures and online source links.
You will need
First Clear Flour
White Rye Flour (Cream of Rye)
An active sourdough starter for making Rye Sour
Since Bob K has introduced specialty flours to us as bread making ingredients it is time to provide a link to the better home baking suppliers. http://www.kingarthurflour.com/flours/ This company seems to be to go to company and they are able to meet the needs of the baking population just as the Sausage Maker meets the needs of the charcuterie population. There are of course others.
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And if you get the idea that you want to go into business there is this http://www.allbulkfoods.com/index.php/cPath/1001_31
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I've been using that brand of bread flour for my pizza dough and been very happy with the results, rave reviews. My burger buns on the other hand still don't make me happy as I could be, they are "heavy". We're going shopping today and I'll pick up more of the bread flour and some of their all purpose flour as well. I found a recipe on their site for "light fluffy burger buns" that I'm chomping at the bit to try, I'll report my results. Thanks for posting that site Ross! RAY
“Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.”
Ray try increasing the liquid content of the rolls/buns by a percent or so. It doesn't take much.
Some of the lightest, most holey breads are about 75% liquid in the dough. They are beastly to handle and want to run off the table but they are lovely to eat when completely fresh. They don't keep well.
Some of the lightest, most holey breads are about 75% liquid in the dough. They are beastly to handle and want to run off the table but they are lovely to eat when completely fresh. They don't keep well.
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Yesterday at the market I picked up a 5-pound bag each of the King Arthur all-purpose, and bread flour. It was about twice the price of the other all-purpose flour I'd been using, so if "you get what you pay for" wrings out things can only get better. The site Ross posted had tons of recipes, I'm going to try this one first. RAY
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/ ... uns-recipe
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/ ... uns-recipe
“Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.”
Ray click the button that gives the cups, ounces, grams option and it will give you weights. The recipe is quite similar to the eggs/milk/water recipe. Bob K's method of topping with savory will also work here.
I was telling Nancy that someday I am going to buy a bag of every brand and type of flour that I can find locally and make side by side batches and compare the results. I haven't noticed any difference in house brand all purpose flour.
I was telling Nancy that someday I am going to buy a bag of every brand and type of flour that I can find locally and make side by side batches and compare the results. I haven't noticed any difference in house brand all purpose flour.
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