Online Workshop: Project B2 (October 2013)

Locked
User avatar
el Ducko
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 1340
Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2011 04:59
Location: Texas Hill Country
Contact:

Post by el Ducko » Sat Feb 08, 2014 18:25

el Ducko wrote:..."Sunrise Summer Sausage" recipe ...one of those LEM 3" mahogany casings that I had left over from last year...70°...for two days, then...smoking, then hang it back in the kitchen for three days before sticking it into my meat locker (a.k.a. drink-o-rator) at 38° to store...
Well, that was back in January. It's now February 8, weight is down to 55% of original, and it's well past the date when it is okay to try, so I just did.
Image
The hole in the middle is from the temperature probe, used during smoking. Sorry for the shadow lurking over the sausage- - that's me, hovering, getting ready to snatch it. My apologies for the fuzzy picture. That's fuzzy me, hovering... (You get the idea.)

Yeow! This stuff is GOOD! I'll definitely be doing this one again. Thanks, CW. This one gets the Duck Stomp of Approval.
:mrgreen:
Experience - the ability to instantly recognize a mistake when you make it again.
User avatar
Chuckwagon
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 4494
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 04:51
Location: Rocky Mountains

Post by Chuckwagon » Sun Feb 09, 2014 01:00

The hole in the middle is from the temperature probe, used during smoking.
I am REALLY worried about you! :roll:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably needs more time on the grill! :D
Carpster
User
User
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 01:32
Location: Mo.

Post by Carpster » Sun Feb 09, 2014 03:19

Here is a picture of my third batch of Kabanosy and some other random sausage I made.

Image


The sausage is about 6 days old in the picture....it's about three weeks old now and couldn't be better!!!
Carpster
User
User
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 01:32
Location: Mo.

Post by Carpster » Sun Feb 09, 2014 03:25

Image

Same recipe...different day.
User avatar
redzed
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3852
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 06:29
Location: Vancouver Island

Post by redzed » Sun Feb 09, 2014 18:10

Carpster that no name semi-dry sausage does look appetizing! Nice texture, colour and right amount of fat. The sausage sticks are probably a bit too dry, but I'm sure still fun to gnaw. Mine are always gone before they get to that point. What's next on your sausage agenda?
User avatar
Chuckwagon
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 4494
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 04:51
Location: Rocky Mountains

Post by Chuckwagon » Tue Feb 11, 2014 08:09

Nice lookin' project Carpster! Well done. How is the taste and texture of your Kabanosy? How about slicing one in half and sending a close-up photo? They look tasty. :wink:

Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably needs more time on the grill! :D
Carpster
User
User
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 01:32
Location: Mo.

Post by Carpster » Wed Feb 12, 2014 05:08

Thank you Redzed and Chuckwagon, there my be one or two pieces in my office fridge...they will be dry, but I think I can get a picture. It is the best tasting ever!!! :grin:
two_MN_kids
Frequent User
Frequent User
Posts: 186
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 14:25
Location: Blaine, MN

Anybody else make Krakowska yet?

Post by two_MN_kids » Fri Feb 14, 2014 18:44

Greetings all,

I haven't posted much in the past several weeks, but I've been keeping up with my reading, and enjoying the banter between Duk and Chuckwagon! Jean and I have been very busy since early December, processing frozen venison trim into sausages and other products. Of course, the extra pork we purchase for mixing with the venison leads to additional products; pork shoulder bacon, breakfast sausage, bulk Italian sausage. Just since January 1st, we have processed over 185 lbs. of venison and pork products. We keep 100% of the pork products for us and the family, and 25% of the venison product for ourselves, the rest is for the other three hunters in our party!

I've been reading, and re-reading the Krakowska recipe on page 16 of this thread. Is it really okay to mix, stuff, and cook all in the same day? I feel a little uncomfortable with that process, and I'm surprised no one else has brought it up. Redzed has pointed out that the 2" cubes won't work very well in a hobbyists kitchen, and needs to be modified. I imagine that even 1" cubes will be difficult to push through my 5 lb. stuffer.

I started a 1 Kilo batch of this sausage late last week. I purchased a 5# picnic roast (hock removed at store), and cut out the cubed meat and trim. I no longer remember the source, possibly Rytek,( as he was my sole source of information until this website started talking in English), that Cure moves through whole muscle at about 1/4" per 24 hours; I'm not even sure I remember it accurately. With that in mind, I mixed the cubes with 90% of the salt and cure required, and into the refrigerator it went for a three day rest. I put the small bag of trim into freezer. On Monday I ground the trim, added the remaining 10% salt and cure, plus the remaining ingredients, and then emulsified it. It was then added to the cubed meat, and mixed for several minutes.

I didn't want to mess with the stuffer for just a couple of pounds of meat, so we stuffed a 3" fibrous casing using a canning jar funnel and a spoon. This was not an ideal process, at all. I found it very difficult to keep air pockets minimized. I found and pierced several, and missed several more.

Up here at the south end of the Arctic Circle, smokers just can't hold a good cooking temperature. After three hours of drying, smoking, and baking it, I moved it to our convection oven in the house. I had preheated the oven, with a cake pan of hot water to provide humidity, and it was finished in another two hours.

Image

This sausage tastes fantastic, and looks very elegant. The seasonings are simple, as was the process to make it. It didn't seem to suffer by my not exactly following the directions. I did forget to mix the cubed meat prior to mixing with the meat paste, and there is a tendency for the slices to pull apart slightly. But, all considered, it turned out great. We both enjoyed it, and will be making a much larger quantity in the future.

Jim
Carpster
User
User
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 01:32
Location: Mo.

Post by Carpster » Sat Feb 15, 2014 02:27

Hi Chuckwagon, I posted this pic before...so here it is again :roll:
No really I don't mind. :lol:

Image

Kabanosy at my best!!!
Carpster
User
User
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 01:32
Location: Mo.

Post by Carpster » Sat Feb 15, 2014 02:41

Here is a pic. Last piece, Rite before I ate it....after about three weeks!!! Texture dry and delicious!!!! All Gone!!! :cool:
D

Image
Cabonaia
Forum Enthusiast
Forum Enthusiast
Posts: 597
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 02:07
Location: Morgan Hill, CA

Post by Cabonaia » Sat Feb 15, 2014 18:00

Nice job Carpster! I have never seen kabanosy that dry, cuz whether I make a 5 or 10 lb. batch, it won't last for more than a week around here. I could hide it, but then I'd just scarf up all my stash.

Well....recently I did make a batch that had too much fat in it. I knew I was putting a lot of fat in while I was making it, but thought what the heck, give this a try. That was less popular, and I had to eat most of it myself. :mrgreen: Drying it of course did not reduce the fat, though the flavor still improved. It was still less fatty than those slim jims you find at gas stations (the kind that shoot a stream of mystery fat down your throat upon first bite). Won't try that again, though.
User avatar
redzed
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3852
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 06:29
Location: Vancouver Island

Post by redzed » Sat Feb 15, 2014 18:05

Jim, that Krakowska looks really good, especially with having been stuffed in the manner you described. It will be even better after it dries out for a few days. Do you not have a large funnel on your stuffer?
two_MN_kids
Frequent User
Frequent User
Posts: 186
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 14:25
Location: Blaine, MN

Post by two_MN_kids » Sat Feb 15, 2014 19:00

Thanks Chris. I have never done a show-meat sausage like this before, and was surprised at how simple it was. It was also the first time I used the food processor to emulsify meat for sausages.

The stuffing process will definitely need to improve. I have a large SS horn, maybe 1 1/8" ID. It would have worked well, I think. I just was lazy and didn't want to wash the thing for just two pounds of meat. But I can see how the sausage would benefit from a firm stuffing.

I'm not sure I understand the drying process after smoke cooking. Could you explain it to me? There really isn't enough sausage remaining from the first one to try now, but I can apply it to the next batch.

Jim
User avatar
redzed
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3852
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 06:29
Location: Vancouver Island

Post by redzed » Sat Feb 15, 2014 20:06

Jim, drying Krakowska is strictly optional. I like to hang mine for 3 to five days in a temp of around 6o°F with a bit of humidity. The traditional recipe for Dry Krakowska calls for poaching the sausage and then drying at that temp for a couple of weeks until a weight loss of 33%. It is then given a few hours of warm smoke and stored.

And you certainly did the right thing with curing the chunks before stuffing. Nitrite needs time to penetrate whole muscle and release gases. Most of the time I salt and cure meat for a couple of days for all types of sausage. The meat is firmer, absorbs all the good exudate, grinds better and seems to have better colour (based on my own empirical evidence).
User avatar
Shuswap
Passionate
Passionate
Posts: 444
Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 14:05
Location: British Columbia

Size of stuffing Tube

Post by Shuswap » Sat Feb 15, 2014 21:08

Can I jump in? I`m stealing myself to make a first batch of Kabonosy. I`m using a 5lb LEM stuffer and have 22mm collagen casings. Should I be buying a stainless steel long snack tube for this. Or just use one of the supplied plastic tubes?
Locked