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Protein lined casings

Post by muxmun » Sat Apr 14, 2018 01:15

I have a Saucisson drying in the chamber now. I used 1 1/2 inch fibrous casings. Its very hard to find small diameter casings that are protein lined. I did get a link on this board but the supplier is out and who knows when they will be back in stock.
So to get my casings to shrink in this instance, can I add protein to the meat? What if I dissolved some protein in warm water and then soaked my casings in that solution. Would that not be the same as a protein lined casing? How about soaking them in a protein solution, drying them, and then soak again in the protein solution before stuffing?? Just thinking out loud.

And, BTW, I sprayed the Saucisson with mold 600 twice and it aint worikng. But the coppa in the same space is nice and white. 2 weeks now. Whats up with that?

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Post by Bob K » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:30

For 1-1/2" or 38mm casings, you can switch to collagen, which are readily available. Not sure why your mold won't grow.
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Post by muxmun » Sat Apr 14, 2018 15:17

Thanks Bob. I'll get some ordered and give it a shot. I learn something new here all the time.
Thanks again :mrgreen:

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Post by Bob K » Sat Apr 14, 2018 15:28

Charlie-
I assumed that you don't want to use natural casings. Hog casings in that size would be the #1 choice are also readily available and can be used for a lot of different types of sausage.
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Post by Kijek » Sat Apr 14, 2018 19:22

Bob K wrote: Not sure why your mold won't grow.
I know we can't say for sure, why the mold won't grow, but usually isn't it a temperator and/or humidity issue?
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Post by Butterbean » Sat Apr 14, 2018 21:32

Kijek wrote:
Bob K wrote: Not sure why your mold won't grow.
I know we can't say for sure, why the mold won't grow, but usually isn't it a temperator and/or humidity issue?
How could it be that if its growing on the Coppa right beside it?
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Post by StefanS » Sat Apr 14, 2018 22:12

muxmun wrote:Would that not be the same as a protein lined casing? How about soaking them in a protein solution, drying them, and then soak again in the protein solution before stuffing??
no, it won't be same.
muxmun wrote:And, BTW, I sprayed the Saucisson with mold 600 twice and it aint worikng. But the coppa in the same space is nice and white. 2 weeks now. Whats up with that?
fibrous casings made of cellulose or paper. One of ingredients is also some amount of oil - so mold wont grow on it.
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Post by Kijek » Sat Apr 14, 2018 22:17

Butterbean wrote:
Kijek wrote:
Bob K wrote: Not sure why your mold won't grow.
I know we can't say for sure, why the mold won't grow, but usually isn't it a temperator and/or humidity issue?
How could it be that if its growing on the Coppa right beside it?
Hmmm, I see what your saying Butters
Then maybe it's either a bad and/or expired 600 or not mixed correctly.... Maybe No?
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Post by Butterbean » Sun Apr 15, 2018 00:34

Even if it were bad I would think you should be picking up mold from the neighbors. I would be more inclined to think its something else. What, I haven't a clue.
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Post by Bob K » Sun Apr 15, 2018 13:14

StefanS wrote:fibrous casings made of cellulose or paper. One of ingredients is also some amount of oil - so mold wont grow on it
That may be true on some of them but I have never had a problem with mold not growing on them.
75mm Protein lined casing - Genoa
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Post by StefanS » Sun Apr 15, 2018 15:58

Bob K wrote:That may be true on some of them but I have never had a problem with mold not growing on them.
75mm Protein lined casing - Genoa
protein lined and fibrous (not protein lined) - two different casings from technological view...
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Post by Kijek » Sun Apr 15, 2018 17:19

Butterbean wrote:Even if it were bad I would think you should be picking up mold from the neighbors.
I understand again, you do think outside the box my friend.
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Post by cathouse willy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 04:58

When you presoaked your casings did you use chlorinated water? That will kill any mold you sprayed on.
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Post by Bob K » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:12

While I agree that mold will grow faster using untreated water, chlorinated water definitely will not prevent its growth.
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Post by muxmun » Mon Apr 16, 2018 14:03

I did not use chlorinated water to soak. Its been a bit over 2 weeks now and still no mold growth. Its a mystery but I wont lose sleep over it.
So now as this is drying there are long strips of air pockets. Not sure if I should worry about them or not. :?:
Next time I will use natural casings as per Reds recipe. I guess I was afraid they would break and fall being hung.
Thanks all for the input.

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