Help with casings
Help with casings
Chuckwagon or anyone--
I need some advise on collagen casings. I have only used these casings from one source and had pretty much written them off as a worthless substitute for a good sausage wrap. Today I was in the middle of a large batch of snack sticks and realized I had run short of casings, the only ones available locally were pretty spendy but were in stock. I bought enough finish my run and was surprised at the difference between these and the casings that I had tried- far superior in all respects (these were Hi Mountain casings). So, can anyone advise me on where or what to order in collagen casings? My wife (Judy) says if that is the best you can do just pitch it!!
Thanks
Pat
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I need some advise on collagen casings. I have only used these casings from one source and had pretty much written them off as a worthless substitute for a good sausage wrap. Today I was in the middle of a large batch of snack sticks and realized I had run short of casings, the only ones available locally were pretty spendy but were in stock. I bought enough finish my run and was surprised at the difference between these and the casings that I had tried- far superior in all respects (these were Hi Mountain casings). So, can anyone advise me on where or what to order in collagen casings? My wife (Judy) says if that is the best you can do just pitch it!!
Thanks
Pat
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Hi Pat,
There are two types of collagen casings - smoked and clear. Collagen is thin and it won't hold up to hanging from a smoke stick. You can't link it, but smaller collagen casings don't have to be linked - you just stuff them and cut them off with scissors. I lay them out on a smoking screen and find it convenient and quick. I use it often. It doesn't blow out while stuffing and you don't even know it's there when you eat it. In my opinion, it's a great choice for kabanosy although we have another member who says it's too tough. I use both types of collagen casing often - each week as a matter of fact. Sheep casings are just too expensive anymore for me to use as often as I make kabanosy.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
There are two types of collagen casings - smoked and clear. Collagen is thin and it won't hold up to hanging from a smoke stick. You can't link it, but smaller collagen casings don't have to be linked - you just stuff them and cut them off with scissors. I lay them out on a smoking screen and find it convenient and quick. I use it often. It doesn't blow out while stuffing and you don't even know it's there when you eat it. In my opinion, it's a great choice for kabanosy although we have another member who says it's too tough. I use both types of collagen casing often - each week as a matter of fact. Sheep casings are just too expensive anymore for me to use as often as I make kabanosy.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions,
Chuckwagon, the "Sausage Maker" lists a 22mm casing for fresh sausage which sounds like it is a lighter/thinner casing than the ones they sell for smoking (which according to the description can be hung in the smoker). I am thinking I will try the lighter casings for "fresh" sausage and just do as you suggest and lay them on the smoker screens (which I usually do anyway with the snack sticks. As you say, the sheep casings are getting to where they kind of take the fun out using them!
Any opinion on the difference between the two types of casings that "The Sausage Maker" lists" ?
Thanks again
Pat
Chuckwagon, the "Sausage Maker" lists a 22mm casing for fresh sausage which sounds like it is a lighter/thinner casing than the ones they sell for smoking (which according to the description can be hung in the smoker). I am thinking I will try the lighter casings for "fresh" sausage and just do as you suggest and lay them on the smoker screens (which I usually do anyway with the snack sticks. As you say, the sheep casings are getting to where they kind of take the fun out using them!
Any opinion on the difference between the two types of casings that "The Sausage Maker" lists" ?
Thanks again
Pat
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I understand that collagen casings cannot be linked but how do you cut breakfast links without them blowing out when you cook them? I have previously used sheep cassings but the last batch I bought were A)super expensive B) too small to fit any of my stuffing tubes. (I have an Omcan 5lb vertical stuffer).
I have read peoples issues with sheep casings and I am have many of the same issues. It took me 2 hours to load 3ft of casing onto the tube tonight.
Any help would be great. I have about 20lbs of maple coriander sausage that needs stuffing ASAP.
I have read peoples issues with sheep casings and I am have many of the same issues. It took me 2 hours to load 3ft of casing onto the tube tonight.
Any help would be great. I have about 20lbs of maple coriander sausage that needs stuffing ASAP.
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Hi workingpoor. You wrote:
Good to hear from you. Your questions are common ones and most people have found that sheep casings have priced themselves right out of their budgets. I started using collagen casings long ago for breakfast sausages and have found them to be just right for the job. You are correct - they won't link. Cut them with scissors. The trick is to make an entire "rope" of sausage, pin prick the entire length, let it "set up" just a little, then cut it in lengths using a sharp pair of scissors. By allowing the meat to set up (about 30 minutes), it shouldn't ooze out from the ends, providing you don't have too much water in the mixture to begin with. The primary bind should be rather heavy going into the casing.
You wrote:
If you are going to use natural sheep casings, cut the very end off (square) with scissors, separate it, start just a drizzle of water and use the stream to help you separate the casing. Sometimes it helps to sprinkle just a bit of salt on your fingertips. Pull the casing up over the faucet nozzle and rinse the casing out well. Finally, be sure there is a "bubble" of water in the casing to lubricate the interior surface before it goes onto the stuffing horn. This should make the casing slip onto the steel tube easily.
Let us know how things work out workingpoor. You've got friends here. We all work together, so stay with us pal. I'm sure we'll hear from a few other folks about this issue.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
I have read peoples issues with sheep casings and I am have many of the same issues. It took me 2 hours to load 3ft of casing onto the tube tonight.
Good to hear from you. Your questions are common ones and most people have found that sheep casings have priced themselves right out of their budgets. I started using collagen casings long ago for breakfast sausages and have found them to be just right for the job. You are correct - they won't link. Cut them with scissors. The trick is to make an entire "rope" of sausage, pin prick the entire length, let it "set up" just a little, then cut it in lengths using a sharp pair of scissors. By allowing the meat to set up (about 30 minutes), it shouldn't ooze out from the ends, providing you don't have too much water in the mixture to begin with. The primary bind should be rather heavy going into the casing.
You wrote:
Toss your plastic tubes and invest in some non-tapered stainless steel. They have smaller ones available at a fairly decent price now.I have read peoples issues with sheep casings and I am have many of the same issues. It took me 2 hours to load 3ft of casing onto the tube tonight.
If you are going to use natural sheep casings, cut the very end off (square) with scissors, separate it, start just a drizzle of water and use the stream to help you separate the casing. Sometimes it helps to sprinkle just a bit of salt on your fingertips. Pull the casing up over the faucet nozzle and rinse the casing out well. Finally, be sure there is a "bubble" of water in the casing to lubricate the interior surface before it goes onto the stuffing horn. This should make the casing slip onto the steel tube easily.
Let us know how things work out workingpoor. You've got friends here. We all work together, so stay with us pal. I'm sure we'll hear from a few other folks about this issue.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
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Hi Workingpoor,
I know the feeling you have with sheep casings. The best solution is to use some baking soda in the water the casings sit in before stuffing.The water is than slightly alkaline and this makes the casings more slippery, less knots to deal with and the casing slides off the stuffing tube real easy.
Works great on sheep and hog casings
Regards,
Jan.
I know the feeling you have with sheep casings. The best solution is to use some baking soda in the water the casings sit in before stuffing.The water is than slightly alkaline and this makes the casings more slippery, less knots to deal with and the casing slides off the stuffing tube real easy.
Works great on sheep and hog casings
Regards,
Jan.
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Before I knew better I linked some collagen cased sausage. I made the continous strand and then pinched it every six inches and very gently tied a string around the pinch point. Without the pinch, wrapping the string and pulling the knot tight quickly I was just cutting the sausage.
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This may help in your casing selection decision.
(...or not.)
Hog casings seem to work great, and aren't very expensive when compared with sheep casing, but when you gotta have small diameter, the question is "Sheep vs. collagen...?"
This guy, Mark Parisi, is really great. Check out his website at http://www.offthemark.com/cartoons/sausage/
(...or not.)
Hog casings seem to work great, and aren't very expensive when compared with sheep casing, but when you gotta have small diameter, the question is "Sheep vs. collagen...?"
This guy, Mark Parisi, is really great. Check out his website at http://www.offthemark.com/cartoons/sausage/
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